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[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD:
thanks Lana. Not only is this criminal, it is as awful a crime as one can
think of--right down there with pedophilia on the heinous/nasty scale. Not
only do they not care whether disease is present or not, they will
"treat"/drug every one, regardless of age, and regardless of the fact that
30-70 % of those in the pre-school, day-school or foster home are already
being "treated". But then, might there be some legitimacy to their argument
that they not only have ADHD but that they have 3 to 5 "co-morbid"
psychiatric conditions along with it. The answer is: "No there couldn't be,
no! there isn't any legitimacy, it is criminal and it may even be worse than
pedophilia. They have no anchor in science, or, for that matter in the
legitimate practice of medicine. They must be getting paid awfully well by
Big Pharma.

And yes! the Surgeon General of the United States and the NIH and the NIMH
and most every agent and agency of the US government, the House and Senate
included are co-conspirators in this unthinkable victimization of US
families, citizens and children. These same experts are busy exporting
this product, as quickly as they can, to all the developed countries of the

Fred Baughman, MD 7 31 03]

Lana wrote:

>  So "being bored" is now a sign of depression...
>  The behavioral problems they cause, such as aggressiveness,
>  withdrawal or uncontrollable tantrums, can result in a child being
>  labeled a problem not only by day care or school officials, but by their
>  peers. Once those labels are established, they can be difficult to
>  remove, and they can reinforce the child's emotional problem.   
>  How about pointing out that once psychiatric labels are established,
>  they are IMPOSSIBLE to remove?

  Kids on the Couch
  Doctors Say 1 in 10 Children Suffer Emotional, Mental Disorders
  By Dean Schabner
  July 31- When Monica was told she should consider taking her 2-year-old
  son to a psychiatrist, her first reaction was that maybe her
  pediatrician was the one in need of a shrink.
  Thirty years ago, most psychiatrists would have agreed with her, but
  times change.
  According to the Office of the Surgeon General, one in 10 children under
  the age of 18 "suffer from mental illness severe enough to cause some
  level of impairment."
  The National Institute of Mental Health, in its fact sheet for
  physicians Depression in Children and Adolescents, cited studies that
  found as many as 2.5 percent of children and 8.3 percent of teenagers
  suffer from depression.
  Some psychiatrists say those numbers may even be conservative,
  suggesting that as many as one in five children will go through extended
  periods when they show the symptoms of significant emotional problems by
  the time they turn 18.
  And those periods can begin surprisingly early, some psychiatrists say.
  The subject is still controversial, but most child psychiatrists talked to agreed that at least some precursors of serious
  depression can appear in children as young as 2 years old. Some said
  that children that young can in fact suffer from full-blown depression
  or post-traumatic stress disorder.
  "Over the past 30 years there's been a general movement towards
  recognizing that children can suffer from serious psychiatric
  illnesses," said Dr. Jay Reeve, a clinical psychologist with 17 years
  experience who is currently the senior psychologist on the Children's
  Inpatient Unit at Bradley Hospital, a pediatric psychiatric hospital in
  East Providence, R.I.
  He said it shouldn't really come as a surprise that children are
  vulnerable to emotional problems as serious as adults, because children
  have so little control over the world they live in, and especially when
  they are very young and cannot really understand why things happen.
  "You've got a person 2 feet tall and vulnerable to anything the big
  people want to do," he said. "We see kids who are suffering from pretty
  clear signs of depression every day. I think you're seeing professionals
  and society becoming more comfortable with saying that kids suffer from
  these illnesses."
  While some psychiatrists said that factors such as the rising number of
  families in which both parents work, violence in neighborhoods and the
  mobility of families may all have contributed over recent decades to
  more instability in young childrens' lives that in some cases might
  result in serious emotional problems, most said they do not believe that
  there has been any real growth in the number of children who suffer
  these problems.
  Instead, it is that growing "comfort" with making the diagnosis that
  accounts for what seems like an increase in the number of disturbed kids
  in America, they say.
  As with some types of cancer, it may not be that there is a rise in the
  number of children affected, only an increase in the ability to
  recognize it and call it by its proper name, said Neal Ryan, a professor
  of child and adolescent psychology at the University of Pittsburgh who
  specializes in depression and anxiety disorders.
  Searching for an Answer
  For Monica, "comfortable" may not be the word to describe how she feels
  about saying her 2-year-old could need a psychiatrist, but when she and
  her husband considered the alternative, they realized they had to try
  anything they could.
  They decided they could not let their son go on with behavioral problems
  that include uncontrollable tantrums when he is anywhere with more than
  just a few people, refusal to interact at all with other children,
  wearing socks on his hands and a period of eight months when they could
  not take him out of the house at all because of the tantrums he threw.
  Still, she said she has a hard time imagining how a psychiatrist is
  going to be able to learn anything from her son, much less begin to help
  "He's talking, but they can't talk to him the way they would talk to me,
  so I'm wondering how this is going to work," she said. "I personally
  think that he is very young to go to a psychiatrist, but we have tried
  every other avenue for help."
  Psychiatrists do not expect to be able to speak to a child the way they
  can speak to an adult, though, and have developed different strategies
  to try to understand the nature of a youngster's problem.
  The difficulty is not as pronounced with teenagers, but with elementary
  school age children, language is not always the best way into a
  youngster's thoughts and feelings, psychiatrists say, and with toddlers,
  simply talking reveals very little.
  "Certainly we don't have them lay on the couch and tell us about their
  dreams," said Dr. Chistopher Peterson, an assistant professor in
  psychology at Penn State Hershey Medical Center.
  From Skeptic to Advocate
  One alternative is play therapy, in which a therapist allows the child
  to play - either with the therapist involved or with the therapist
  simply as an observer. Either way, the therapist watches the kind of
  games chosen, the story lines, what happens, and over a period of time
  is able to draw conclusions from the patterns that emerge from the
  "I sat in on the first few sessions and was able to see how it worked,"
  said Rachel, a woman whose adopted daughter has been diagnosed with
  post-traumatic stress disorder. "The therapist had so much insight into
  things I would have overlooked, how she would play with her dolls. Most
  of it is free play, but there is tremendous observation by the
  therapist, identifying emotions."
  She said that in the program her daughter is in, the therapists also
  meet with the childrens' parents weekly to discuss what happens in the
  home, asking probing questions about the child's behavior and
  interactions with others.
  It has made a difference, at least for her daughter.
  "I'm now an advocate," she said.
  More Than the 'Terrible Twos'
  Like most parents who fear their child may have an emotional or mental
  disorder that requires psychiatric care, Rachel did not immediately find
  doctors who seemed to understand what was going on.
  The first step was finding someone who recognized that what the little
  girl was suffering was more than the "terrible twos." It was when she
  had a developmental evaluation of the girl done that she first heard
  about post-traumatic stress disorder, but even then, the answer offered
  wasn't the one she was looking for.
  "They told me, 'We can medicate her if it would make it easier for
  you,'" she said. "I can't tell you how insulting that is to me, that a
  doctor could suggest or that a parent could medicate a child just to
  make it easier for them. That was a frightening idea. And it was never
  presented that that would help her."
  The doctors that ABCNEWS spoke to all said that medications should only
  be used to help the child, and should only be used in conjunction with a
  program of therapy.
  "What I believe the best meds medications are is strong relationships
  in your life, with your family and your friends and strong confidence in
  yourself and your ability to do things well," said Dr. John Sargent,
  professor of psychiatry and pediatrics at the Baylor College of Medicine
  and director of child and adolescent psychiatry at the Ben Taub Hospital
  in Houston. "So what I want to do is use my meds to make those meds
  Changing the Chemistry
  Medications are a sore issue with many families, who believe that their
  children have been unfairly labeled as suffering from attention
  deficit/hyperactivity disorder and are required by school districts or
  day care providers to take drugs such as Ritalin.
  Studies - Reeve called them "voluminous" - have shown that if a child is
  properly diagnosed with ADHD, certain medications can help the child not
  only learn while under the effects of the drug, but also learn to focus
  so that he can eventually study and succeed without the drug.
  The same is true for some medications for depression and other emotional
  disorders that can affect children, psychiatrists say.
  Especially among young children, a large contributing factor to
  depression can be heredity, meaning that their condition may begin in
  their brain chemistry, and medications known as selective serotonin
  reuptake inhibitors work to change brain chemistry.
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